CATDOLL: Netizens complain: There are no "pure" villains in today's boys' comics

In our impression, there are often one or more bosses in hot-blooded youth comics, and there is usually a "final boss" waiting for the protagonist to defeat, such as "Dragon Ball". However, in many youth comics nowadays, we rarely see such settings. Many people who were previously thought to be bosses always get redeemed in the end. So recently, some netizens started a discussion: It feels that the comics "One Piece" and "Naruto" do not have iconic villains, and everyone responded.

1: Below, \(^o^)/でVIPがお发りします2015/09/09(water) 10:13:54.527 ID:d4wGPb1o00909.net

In the past, there were bosses like Frieza in Dragon Ball, DIO in JOJO, etc. But after careful observation, I found that there are no iconic bosses in One Piece and Naruto. Why is that?

28: Below, \(^o^)/でVIPがお发りします2015/09/09(water) 10:29:18.741 ID:zeeMtTuo00909.net

Times have changed. In the past, people could pursue the kind of "pure villain", so when talking about these characters, you can immediately think of how bad the character is, so it is very iconic. But now the villain is often "black and white", you can't think of him as a pure bad guy, which certainly enriches the connotation of the character, but it also loses the iconicity.

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There are no iconic villains in these two works? Aren't Orochimaru and Blackbeard going to cry?

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Orochimaru was redeemed later, right? As for Blackbeard, although his methods were very despicable, his words "People's dreams will never stop!" are enough to make him a tyrant. It is hard to be convincing to just regard him as an iconic BOSS.

18: Below, \(^o^)/でVIPがお发りします2015/09/09(water) 10:21:30.921 ID:rNgSJczx00909.net

The bosses in Naruto are almost all good guys who turned bad because of some dark history. In fact, I really hoped that Uchiha Itachi was a complete villain, but then everyone knew it... including Gaara.

30: Below, \(^o^)/でVIPがお发りします2015/09/09(water) 10:31:18.869 ID:PJdr529/00909.net

In fact, the truly iconic BOSS in boys' comics in the past 10 years has to be our Lord Aizen...

It seems that everyone has noticed this. In any case, if there is no real strong enemy in the youth hot-blooded comic, it is indeed difficult for the protagonist to grow. However, the current trend is that the protagonist will encounter strong enemies, but these strong enemies can always be whitewashed in the end for various reasons. It is really rare to see a "pure" villain who is antagonistic to the end. Moreover, the bosses in "Bleach" are also beginning to take the whitewashing route. It seems that the evaluation of bosses is also developing with the times. What do you think?